48 thoughts on “wp-SwimTeam

  1. does this work with wordpress multisite. I have installed and I cannot get the users to show up so there is no choice for parent. I thought it might be due to my multisite configuration?
    thx
    barrett

    • To be honest with you it has been a long time since I have tried it with multi-site. I will have to give it a shot and report back but it may be tomorrow before I can do so.

    • I just did a quick check on the only multi-site installation I have access to. My site uses sub-folders and wp-SwimTeam doesn’t work correctly. In particular, the various tabs don’t work correctly. I need to look at how the tabs are constructed, it requires tweaking the URL and I am guessing I am not accounting for the sub-folder installation correctly.

  2. Thanks for looking into this Mike, that was cool. My brother is a swim team coach and I showed him wp-swim team yesterday and he thought it was brilliant. I donate a swim team informational site to him within my multisite set-up. He has no technical knowledge. It would be ideal if I could get this to work within my current setup. If you have any ideas on how to fix this issue please let me know. The user information is stored in the root directory of the wordpress install. I have a subdomain site setup configuration.

    Thanks Barrett

    • I looked at this briefly the other day and I think I can make it work with some better URL parsing than I am currently doing. I need to finish the changes I am making right now to support Events correctly and once I’ve done that, I will take a look at fixing it for multi-site. My progress on Events is going pretty well but it is a big change because my original thinking on it was pretty flawed. I think I have most of the infrastructure changes done and am working on importing a Hy-tek Events File right now. Once that is working, I will likely do a release.

    • Barrett -

      I have a preliminary build of wp-SwimTeam working under WordPress multi-site. If you can test it out and let me know I’d greatly appreciate it. It works on my sub-directory multi-site installation. You can find the details and the beta release of v1.19 on my wp-SwimTeam site.

      Mike

  3. Thanks Mike. Good luck with your events. Hope you get them working for summer swim season. Thanks for the great plugin. The Hy-Tek events file sounds great. I’ll keep looking for your update.

    Barrett

  4. Hi Mike,

    I just checked in on your plugin and have tried the new version. I have 2 different wordpress multisite installs. i have a subdomain and a subdirectory. It did not work on the subdomain so i tried it on my subdirectory site. It did not work there either. But since you said you got it to work on your subdomain install I tried running the plugin on the root. Basically it works at mysite.com and not mysite.com/swimteam. The users are nonexistent. I then tried it on my subdomain wp site and once again worked on the root mysite.com but not swimteam.mysite.com. I do not know if it worked on the root before because I never tried. I wanted to use the plugin on a subdomain site. Am I doing something wrong. Is it working on on your multisite install on a subdirectory site? Thanks V Barrett

    • Can you elaborate on what isn’t working? Do the various tabs and forms work? Are just the users missing? I’d be happy to look at it but I need some guidance on where to start. On my sub-directory installation I checked most of the menus and forms but I don’t think I tried adding another user.

  5. on my installations i go to the swim team area and click on users. when I am in the original wordpress site, the root. there is a list of users. when i am in the sub-domain and subdirectory versions the same list is users is blank and it says no data found. I am not even listed and I am super admin with privledges on all accounts. I click on the myprofile tag and it shows all my info. i hit save. its says swim team user profile and the information is correct. then i click the users tab and once again there is no information saying no data found. It appears tabs are working, I can add a swimmer but there is “none” in the spot for parent. then I save and return to the myswimmer page and my swimmer is not listed. If I click on the team roster tab my swimmer is listed but not assigned a parent. The problem seems to only be accessing the user information.

  6. Thanks Mike. I have users now. All appears to be working on your awesome plugin. I am going to spend the day checking it out and trying out some shortcocdes.

    Thanks for everything, you ROCK!
    V Barrett

  7. Hi Mike – I just stumbled across wp-swimteam and was amazed at how much you’ve built out over time. I built a custom website for our swim team using WP as CMS behind the scenes; however we we currently use a combination of Thriva and Team Manager for registration, billing, performance tracking, meet entries, etc. It seems as though TeamUnify is really taking over the world with it’s cloud-based offering and Hy-Tek is trying to play catch-up (in a slow and kludgy way!) I was curious if you were tracking what these two were up to! (Not affiliated with or a fan of either right now)

    • I am not familiar with Thriva, what is it? A few years ago I had a look at TeamUnify as they were calling our team constantly (that Ashley lady was persistent!). At the time the functionality wasn’t much better than what we had and the cost per swimmer really made it a non-option for our team so we never looked to seriously at it. There are now several teams in our league who speak highly of it including one who used to use wp-SwimTeam. I spoke with their Admin a few months ago and he told me that for him, the biggest benefit of moving from WordPress and wp-SwimTeam was there was a company providing support behind it and their whole system was dependent on him as his child was phasing out of swim team. Functionally he told me it did some things better but some things not as well.

      Our swim team chair for next season plans to look at it for much the same reason this other team moved to it. There are (valid) concerns that our current solution is too dependent on me and now that I am down to one swimmer, how much longer will I remain involved? For the past four years wp-SwimTeam has served our team well and if the team chooses to go the TeamUnify route, I won’t stand in their way – I am not looking to make a career out this project!

      I’ve done a lot of work this past summer adding Hy-tek support to wp-SwimTeam. I still don’t care for their software, the UI is awful but they are the market leader. So there is little choice but to work with them. I haven’t looked at their online offering in a long time and I don’t know anyone who uses it. When I last looked at it, it was pretty weak and I felt what I built with wp-SwimTeam was actually better.

      From what I’ve seen in our local league, TeamUnify is winning the online space and Hy-tek continues to own the actual Meet Management space. My solution will continue to be available for those teams who can’t afford TeamUnify or don’t want it for one reason or another.

      • Thriva is the online registration/billing tool from Active Network who now own Hy-Tek and who have spurred a lot of their online capabilities of late and they do offer some data integration with Team Manager. It’s broader than swimming, but therefore not as specialized to the needs of a swim team. Meet Manager still dominates the actual meet side of things, but TeamUnify is giving away their TouchPad software to their subscribers to try to get a foothold. I’m also realistic about the fact that our team will likely move to a hosted solution that doesn’t rely on someone with the technical skills required to manage a custom site at some point but hoping they get some use out of the investment of my time in the meantime. I started to develop a team administration backbone myself a few years back, but as they say, work got in the way. All the best – and nice to see someone offering a well thought out alternative.

  8. Mike,

    I’ve got an event in my league that is a “Scotch” event open to both male and female (mix)…in my hytek event file it comes with an “X” for gender and the plugin is kicking it back. Is this something that can be added in on my end? Thanks, again!

    Corey

    • Just yesterday I uploaded a beta version of the next release where I added support for mixed gender events. There are a number of posts on my wp-SwimTeam.org site which describe the changes I have made this past week to support mixed gender and combined age groups.

      You can download the preliminary release at: http://www.wp-SwimTeam.org

  9. Hello all, I’ve been playing with the plugin on a test wp site and I’m very impressed so far, it really looks to have great potential for us but I’m having a problem adding age groups, they’re always being entered using the min and max ages for the team rather than what I specify and if I try to update the age group once created to something other than the min and max I get “Age Group was not updated.” . Using phpMyAdmin I can edit the age ranges directly in the db and it seems to be happy I just can’t work out why I’m having an issue. any Ideas ? I’m in the UK by the way.

    Thanks
    Mike

  10. Mike, 4 things:

    I deleted all the WP users, which removed their SwimTeam profiles, but left a bunch of orphaned swimmers. I tried to remove the swimmers one-by-one, but the delete wouldn’t complete because it was looking for their parent association. How do I clear out these swimmers at this point?

    What does the “Overide Age Range Checks” feature do, and can we hide it? It is just going to confuse the parents and I don’t really understand its purpose.

    The Website ID field in the swimmer setup just seems to provide the list of users to choose from, so I don’t understand its purpose either since the tool already has us choosing contacts.

    How is the Nickname field utilized and is it necessary?

    Thanks!

      1. Now that your users are all deleted, your swimmers are “orphaned” of sorts. There are a couple of ways to fix this. If you have direct database access (e.g. phpMySQLAdmin) you could delete all of the rows in the wp_st_swimmers table (where “wp_” will be your WordPress database prefix). To do it properly you should have deleted swimmers prior to deleting users but what you could do now is go through the swimmers and assign their parent to be your admin user then the normal delete process will work.
      2. Override age checks only appears for admin users, regular users (e.g. parents) will not see it. It allows you to enter a swimmer into the system who wouldn’t otherwise be eligible. On our team we had a special needs child that had technically aged out but enjoyed being part of swim team she continued to swim even though she was technically too old. Overriding the age checks allowed us to put her in the system.
      3. The web site ID allows the swimmer themselves to be registered as a WordPress user. We had this request from some of our older swimmers so they would receive information directly as opposed to via their parents. It is also used by Masters team where the concept of parent/guardian doesn’t really make sense but the rest of the system is still useful to them.
      4. The nickname field, when filled in, will be used in place of the first name field when generating reports, meet entries, etc.
  11. Mike, I think I’ve found an limitation of age groups when used with our club in the UK. The meets that we attend all (the ones I’ve seen so far) determine the age of a swimmer on a given date rather than the age being controlled by a season date and the given date depends on the date of the meet. In the case of a series of meets the date is usually the last date of the series. I can’t think of a way to sidestep this problem within the current plugin other than by overriding the qualification checks which I don’t think I want to do. We almost always have multiple meets scheduled with different “age” dates. Any advice? Am I understanding how the age functionality works?
    Many Thanks
    Mike

    • This is a tricky one. The entire “age group” thinking is based on a single “age up” date. The only thing I can think to do, it would be cumbersome, is to change the age up date in the system to correspond to whatever the next meet on the schedule is. If you’re working with two meets at the same time you might have to toggle it back and forth which could be confusing to say the least.

      Off the top of my head I am thinking I might be able to add a meet specific age up date that if it existed, would override what the system setting for age up is but I am not sure what else it would affect without trying it and seeing what breaks. It would be most critical for meet entries but it could get very confusing very quickly.

      How much do these dates vary?

      • You might as well consider it to be every meet having its own age date. The only meets that have the same date would be in a series but most aren’t. I didn’t think this would be easy , it’s clearly very different to how your meets operate.

        • In your situation does the concept of a swimmer being assigned an age group outside of a “meet” have any value? Or does it work that a swimmer will swim in whatever events are relevant to their age based on the meet details?

          • To your first question- No value: the swimmers age is only ever calculated with reference to a meet “age” date which is normally the last day of a meet or series of meets. 2nd question : yes swimmers swim in age grouped events for their age at the meet “age” date , hope that makes sense!

  12. good morning Mike, I have just downloaded Swim Team and the following warning appears: Warning: The wp-SwimTeam plugin database version is incorrect (v vs. v0.88). Please notify the web site administrator. Have you come across this before? Thanks Edan

    • I thought I would download your current version and the error received was:

      Fatal error: Cannot redeclare html_link() (previously declared in /home4/edanc/public_html/swim/wp-content/plugins/wp-pagenavi/scb/Util.php:271) in /home4/edanc/public_html/swim/wp-content/plugins/phphtmllib/tag_utils/html_utils.inc on line 952

    • I have not run into the database version issue but I’ll look into it shortly.

  13. We are having an issue in which the First Name and Last Name is not showing up on the Jobs report, it shows up in their WP-Swimteam profile, but not their wordpress profile. I looked though the code and I am stuck! BTW: I am running WordPress 3.9.1

  14. Mike,

    Just installed your plugin the other day and have been playing around with it for a few hours, and I’m still a little lost when it comes to how you add info. Things like registration forms would actually be the most resourceful part of this plugin.

    I’m basically trying to better understand how this plugin works so I can help my friend who runs a summer swim league; I’m just the web designer. They use Hy-Tek currently, so something to integrate their site would be excellent.

    I read the Two Minute Setup Guide but unfortunately I still didn’t get anywhere.

    Do some of the fields have to come from their Hy-Tek account to work? Like the SDIF Profile?

    Thanks

    • Let me see if I can do a quick reply while I have a few minutes and then I’ll try and follow up with more detail. I am happy to take a conversation to email as well, just let me know.

      For the Hy-tek integration to work, you need to set up the SDIF profile information within the plugin. It is on one of the tabs on the Options menu under the main Swim Team menu on the Dashboard. Here is a quick summary of the order of operations to get things set up:

      1. Go through all of the tabs on the Options menu and set up your team, you should be in good shape. That should be the very first task you do when you set up the plugin.
      2. Setup the Swim Clubs you will be swimming against. You do this on the Management menu page from the Swim Clubs tab
      3. If you plan to use the Jobs (Volunteer) functionality, you can set up your jobs next. I would set up one or two to get an idea of how they work before I put in the effort to set them all up.
      4. Setup your swim meets. You will reference the swim clubs you set up in Step #2.
      5. Allocate your jobs against swim meets (if you’re using the Jobs functionality).
      6. Set up your season and mark it is active. Only one season can be active at a time.
      7. Set up your age groups
      8. Open up for registration
      9. Register Swimmers

      This will basically get you set up. From here you set up the events for a swim meet and depending on how you put swimmers in events (opt-in or opt-out), you let people register (opt-in) for a meet or scratch (opt-out). Once you have swimmers in a meet you can generate meet entry files which Hy-tek can import.

      Feel free to ask questions. I realize there is a lot there but it is pretty straight forward once you get the hang of it.

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